The relentlessly optimistic Esther Bailey started a new role at NABERS in September after eight years at the City of Sydney working on the Better Building Partnership and CitySwitch.
Thereโs no doubt sheโs up for the new challenge. โThis is still the best time to be in this job, in this place, in this country,โ she told The Fifth Estate.
As head of market development, Bailey will help the organisation achieve its core strategic goals, which include doubling the number of NABERS ratings and making sure every large building type can be rated using NABERS tools by 2023. The tool does not currently cover major building types such as schools, industrial buildings, universities, retail stores, healthcare buildings and others.
The organisation is currently putting the untapped sectors โthrough the sieveโ to target those that will have the most impact, with new sector tools expected to be launched next year.
Baileyโs role involves making sure the technical experience matches the customer experience.
โItโs not just about the rating and the number. Itโs about getting you from nowhere to super sustainable high performance.โ
She says the first rating is always hideous because itโs tricky to track down the paperwork and locate the wiring. โItโs important to support people through that.โ
NABERS for Apartments
Apartment buildings are one set of customers that are โstill in that hard placeโ despite an overall positive response to the new NABERS for Apartments tool launched last year.
โStrata schemes are incredibly complex, and thereโs very diffuse control and influence structure with committees and strata, so thereโs some big governance challenges.โ
Bailey says the leaders like the tool, and are now pivoting towards Green Power, โwhich we never thought would happen 12 to 18 months ago, because itโs all about price.โ
She says City of Sydney is doing some interesting work helping strata buildings communicate a vison and value proposition. โWhen you work for an organisation thereโs a set of values and thatโs clear.โ
Strata buildings, by contrast, are just made up of people who have chosen to live in the same spot.
โSo when you have to make a decision about installing LED lighting, thereโs no framework defining โwho we want to beโ.โ
A clear value proposition can help steer a strata organisation towards consensus.
She says the focus on residential is growing as some of the easier sectors like commercial are now on track. โBut the beauty is we can learn from the sectors weโve already done.โ
One of the things she really wants to achieve in the next few years is helping different sectors learn from each other and recognise that they are โmore similar than differentโ when it comes to upgrading environmental performance.
โWeโre in a really good place to be able to draw analogies across different sectors.โ
All eyes on waste
The waste tool is another NABERS newbie and although itโs doing well it comes with its challenges. For one, thereโs โno energy bill for wasteโ โ that is, no reliable unit of measure that everyone agrees on.
But she says monitoring waste better will be the necessary building blocks to instrument an effective circular economy.
โSo if you want to connect a high level circular economy and transform from linear to something that retains value in the system, you need to know where those materials are. And at the moment, we donโt.โ
She says collecting waste from commercial buildings is the best time to be collecting materials because itโs been indoors, in a conditioned space, separated, and professionally managed and governed.
โIf you can then measure it, itโs got a fighting chance of getting where it needs to go to get the most use out of it.โ
Donโt underestimate peopleโs interest in waste
Bailey has just come from CitySwitch, a free program run by the City of Sydney for office-based businesses to improve their energy and waste efficiency, where she waded into the behavioural science influencing office workers on environmental issues.
She says many people who are incredibly engaged and passionate about the waste issue, but that thereโs huge opportunity to unlock interest in the bulk of the population.
โWeโre just not doing it right.โ
She thinks thereโs an overlooked opportunity in gamification by making fun and interactive ways of communicating what waste gets turned into.
โIf it was clear that collecting bottle tops would make your next pair of glasses, that if you separated your food waste then you could get free compost from the loading dock, you would completely change that conversation.โ
She imagines a waste-to-item version of the spiral wishing well coin funnels you see outside supermarkets.
This sort of activity might not shift everyoneโs behaviour but it has a good chance of activating the significant amount of people in the โnudge zone.โ
โItโs incumbent on us to find the creative ways to maximise those people who do care and can be contributing to that.โ
Overcoming the luxury versus environment mentality
Although waste is an incredibly mobilising issue thereโs a conflicting phenomenon at play where people are great at managing their three bins at home, but proceed to throw their takeaway lunch containers in the general waste every day at the office.
Bailey says part of the problem is that people have come to expect a certain level of service in premium office buildings. Itโs much the same as five star hotels, where itโs all about the โluxe experienceโ where people want high water pressure in the shower and churn through multiple towels they donโt need to wash.
With great cafes, gymnasiums, and end of trip facilities with fluffy towels, itโs no wonder people have come to expect the same level of luxury in premium offices.
Bailey says thereโs no need for luxury to sit in opposition with sustainability though.
A simple sign that asks you to keep your towel for tomorrow can be โpretty effectiveโ. Well-designed showerheads can also provide a great shower experience without using massive amounts of water, and often without the hotel patron even noticing.
Baileyโs understanding is that thereโs more to be done to overcome the perceived dichotomy between luxury and sustainability but itโs certainly possible to โreconcile those two thingsโ.
โSustainability shouldnโt be really austere; we have to find a way to bring prosperity into the sustainability narrative.โ
CitySwitch and Better Building Partnerships going from strength to strength
Sheโs spent eight years at the City of Sydney working on the Better Building Partnership and CitySwitch, which are both large scale collaboration programs bringing industry leaders together who are already taking voluntary action and โcatalysing them to moving quicker by moving together.โ
At the heart of these programs is businesses learning from one another and de-risking change by โsharing war stories about what works and what doesnโtโ.
Theyโve both been powerful programs. BBP members recently announced a 53 per cent emission reduction off their 2006 baseline. She says nearly all members have net zero commitments, even if itโs an internal taregt, and are aiming for well before 2050.
The CitySwitch program is now covering 4.5 million square metres of office space โ close to 20 per cent of the national office market.
But this still leaves a whole bunch of offices that โmay or may not be taking actionโ.
NABERS has a big role to play
NABERS is a national rating system that denotes progress towards excellence, on single individual units: energy, emissions, water, waste and indoor environment.
โOur goal is to boil it down to the simplest possible atomic units so that those units can be plugged into other schemes.โ
What excites Bailey about the new role is that NABERS โreally sits on the most compelling data setโ to be able to inform government at all levels about how to deploy resources effectively and responsibly.
โIf we are going to get to that shared place that weโve all committed to, we need to be able to measure it because otherwise, we wonโt know if weโre there or not.โ
NABERS is not a leadership program
What NABERS is not, Bailey points out, is a leadership program. Green Star and WELL denote leadership because as well as accounting for energy, water and the other core modules, they also measure biophilia and other attributes youโd expect from leaders in the space.
So NABERS is effectively designed as the intel inside broader multi-factorial programs โ a starting place to ensure there are solid foundations to build upon.
Why we need robust reliable data
Bailey says thereโs a problematic stream of thought that โinformal NABERS ratingsโ are enough.
For people still questioning the value of NABERS ratings, Bailey says the accuracy of these environmental performance building blocks is essential to getting a reliable indication of how we are tracking towards our societal targets.
โThatโs the power of taking a simple verified unit, because you can add them up.โ
The problem with self-verified schemes is that โnot everyone is good with numbers.โ
โSo having verification at a societal scale is going to really, really matter.โ

We are all very lucky to have Esther leading this charge. I cannot wait for NABERS to address and incentivise industrial, universities, retail and especially schools where there are so many gaps (literally) and hence opportunities.